Michael Cohen, the former “fixer” and personal attorney for former President Donald Trump, appeared on the Raw Story Podcast to discuss the latest development in criminal investigations into his former boss. Cohen, serving time on limited home confinement stemming from federal convictions on tax evasion and campaign finance violations, was asked about Trump’s actual feelings about LGBTQ people.
Cohen shared his belief that Trump “doesn’t care if you’re LGBTQ, ’cause you don’t mean anything to him,” and “he’s basically repulsed by the community.” He then shared a story where Trump remarked that he knew someone who “hates” having a gay son.
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First, Cohen details his run-ins while taking a walk (allowed under the restrictions of his home confinement sentence) when he was verbally accosted by a Trump supporter in Central Park. He brushed it off at first, but then the same woman would approach him a few days later in the park.
“Next thing I know, right back into my face is this lady again, her second time… this time I was listening to ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’,” Cohen recalled. The Queen song spurred Cohen to respond to the woman’s curses and negative remarks, and recorded her tirade.
“This is typical of what Trump does to people,” Cohen remarked. “It’s almost like she became empowered to act a complete asshole.”
He added, “[she] interfered with Queen, and that’s just unacceptable.”
Podcast co-host Shannyn Moore remarked, “Virtually everything you have predicted over the last couple of years has come true. You’re sort of a Nostradamus on all things Trump-y.” The host ask Cohen what he thinks will happen next to Trump and his associates, with New York City opening a criminal-investigative grand jury investigating the business activity of Trump.
“It’s going to be like the Olympics gymnastic team,” Cohen remarked, “there’s going to be flipping all over the place.”
Podcast co-host Mike Rogers then asks Cohen, “What does Donald Trump think of the Central Park Five, [Barack] Obama’s nationality, and the LGBT community?”
Cohen answers that he wasn’t working for Trump at that time since he was “in junior high school, or high school” at that time, but that it’s “well-documented” that Trump “is a racist.”
On Trump’s predecessor, Cohen said that “Barack Obama is a thorn in Trump’s large ass. There is no other way to put it.” He cites Obama’s race, intelligence, and the fact “he is really universally loved.”
As for LGBTQ people, Cohen said, “He thinks about them as much as he thinks about… y’know, nothing. He doesn’t care about the community. In fact, he’s basically repulsed by the community.”
Cohen cites a time Trump apparently told him, “Oh, you know, ‘a friend of mine has a son, who’s gay, and you know, he’s really rich… his father hates it.’”
“So it’s not true. I happen to know the family. The father doesn’t hate it,” Cohen remarked. “Now, would the father prefer him to be, you know, heterosexual? I don’t know. I never asked him… maybe yes, no, I don’t know. It’s none of my business, it’s between them. But Trump then puts himself into the dead center.”
This is proof to Cohen that Trump “doesn’t have any regard for anyone. He doesn’t care if you’re Black, right? He doesn’t like you. He doesn’t care if you’re white, he doesn’t like you really, either — unless, of course, you’re a Trump supporter. Right?
“He doesn’t care if you’re LGBTQ, ’cause you don’t mean anything to him. That’s the problem, the man lacks any relationships. I mean, it’s why Donald Trump has no friends.”
He then compares how Obama used to have friends from college and his pre-Presidential days that would visit him and be welcomed at the White House, to how Trump didn’t have any friends or people he welcomed. “People say to me, ‘I’m a friend of Donald Trump,’” Cohen said, to which he replied, “I know you’re lying.”
Cohen then expressed that while he wasn’t completely ignorant about Trump prior to working for him in 2007 —when he was the face of the top reality show on network television, The Apprentice, and half-owner of Miss Universe — he didn’t foresee what he would become and how his Presidential administration would turn out to become.
He stressed how he didn’t . “Yeah, I worked for a monster,” Cohen admitted.
“My wife, my children begged me, begged me not to take the job… they begged me to quit,” he recalled, admitting that Trump was “disrespectful to my daughter” in front of him. He still didn’t have the wherewithal to quit.
“I almost felt guilty… it’s weird: the cult of Trump is a cult. Plain and simple, he’s no different than any other cult leader, and he is the Jim Jones.”
Cohen later said the “low hanging fruits” indictments against Barry Weisselberg and Allen Weisselberg will come first. Barry Weisselberg was the manager of Central Park’s Wollman Rink, operated by the Trump Organization from 2001 to 2021, and Allen Weisselberg is the Chief Financial Officer of the Trump Organization.
Cohen then said he believes Trump will be indicted after that, before summer. That will be the “first time in his entire life” that he will be held responsible “for his dirty deed,” remarked Cohen.
Cohen said he believes Trump will face a “hybrid” form of punishment from the judicial system as opposed to a prison sentence, as sending a former President to jail is unprecedented and could cause complex issues, such as with Secret Service protection and sensitive national security information.