Panel discussion on the historic roots of gym and muscle culture and steroid use amongst gay men and how gym culture has appeared in cultural representations…
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damn this video made me feel bad i almost cried
this was really interesting
What I loathe even more than the gay community’s obsession with muscle is
the treatment of those in the gay community who are known as “muscle
marys”. They are treated almost like demigods which only reaffirms the
community’s attitudes towards body image. The community’s approach to body
image drove me to an eating disorder. I find the whole “community” a
negative, depressing arena – gays wanted some solidarity away from the
“evil” straight world yet are more judgmental & fragmented than ever
very good discussion
This has been a very engaging presentation, but the core issue of the
desire for the beautiful and the biologically immanence of the desire for
the beautiful cannot be avoided. We cannot change what the deepest voices
in our minds say. Also, gay men have few brakes, subculturally or
practically, on their sexual practice. Additionally, gay culture (and
modern secular culture) lacks any spirituality or transcendence, so that
the culture is stuck in the body, sensation, the visual, etc.
we live in a society to screw each other over for the mighty Benjamin. It
will never stop….sad but true.
What a bunch of pseudo-academic sob sisters! Masculine ideals have been a
part of most world cultures. They are not just a product of capitalism or
the West. In fact, so-called “heteronormative” (what a ridiculous word)
rules are much more oppressive in non-western cultures.
Yes and the problem is that many gay men and the gay culture in general
have adopted many heteronormative ideas, they try to conform to the
“traditional male gender”, and afraid beeing non-traditional they afraid to
show feminine traits. There is another word for this: Cis-conformity,
gender policing. And the other problem is that people are just
unquestioningly following “the rules of society”, they take it as self
evident. That is social-conditioning. The gay culture needs to have a
revoluton.
Agreed. White Liberals are adept at creating “crises” where none exist.
incorrect. example: average Japanese women are attracted to a more feminine
look in younger men, as we westerners would call it. Also, cosmetics are
more acceptable by men in non western cultures (especially in European
culture) than other cultures. There has been a recent rise in Muscle
building culture in India suddenly when introduction of western sports
goods and media took a rise quite recently.
Thank you for uploading this! I am a gay man in my late 20’s who has
struggled with this issue.