38 Comments on “Gay Marriage Controversy – The Culture War – Megyn Kelly & O’Reilly”
could Kellys tongue be any further up O’Reilly’s ass. lol
dna is present…WTH.
dna is present even when you dye….that doesn’t mean you are alive.
what…saying that expanding the defention of marriage to gay people will
make us exclude people who want to marry goats.
its like saying you shouldn’t change the def. of marriage to include
interacial marriages because that would be unfair to people who want to
marry ducks.
DNA is present? Sperm has DNA also but they ain’t up there protesting
masturbation.
O Reilly : Half of all hetero marriages end in divorce, so the argument of
stability is CRAP ! Until you can prove half of all homo marriages also end
in divorce, you have no case, and since you want to ban gay marriage, your
argument is doomed from the start. Tradition does not mean it is right,
slavery was a tradition too.
Hate to correct you Bill, but the culture war has already been won, and
progressive, freedom seekers WON, and religious fascists LOST. This
happened back in the 80’s and Fox News apparently is so behind the times
they think religious bigots have the right to trample over everyone else’s
freedom to marry who they love.
I dont understand his argument. Which other groups would want to get
married? The federal government supports heterosexual marriage , why not
gay marriage?
I completely agree with O’Reilly. I’m fed up with all the religious-based
arguments against gay marriage. They should all just shut up! First of all,
there are plenty of secular reasons for marriage that has no religious
foundation at all. Many cultures outside the major world religions define
marriage between man and woman so when Bible thumpers cite God, I CRINGE!
Instead of throwing religion into the battle, why not ask homosexuals why
they need to practice a “heterosexual” union to feel equal? First of all,
they shouldn’t have to conform to mainstream ideals to be accepted and
receive the same benefits.
He says that the supreme court can not allow gay rights because that power
is not granted in the constitution.
This is absolutely not true. The civil rights of our citizens are
protected–you can not deny certain citizens rights. “We hold these truths
to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.” The supreme court has
ruled to protect african americans rights and they have voted to protect
gay americans rights (by striking down DAMA).
He also says that gay people can have civil unions so the definition of
marriage is not expanded.
This is also wrong in so many ways. That is the same argument that
segregationists used when they talked about the importance of separate but
equal. By saying you can’t have a marriage you can only have a contract
that makes gay people second class citizens. Also, how does it effect you
if gay people can marry? Has your marriage been effected because gay people
can marry in some states now? If it bothers you that two people can be in
love and call it the same word that you call your relationship, just don’t
think about it and it wont effect you.
Lastly, (although I could probable rant for an hour about this) he says
that marriage is a stabilizer of society. How would it be any less
stabilized if more people could be joined in marriage. Study after study
shows that children of gay people do just as well as children of straight
couple. But denying their parents to get married or telling them you can’t
call it the same thing as us because we disapprove of it or it is against
our religion or we don’t think it is as good as our marriage–that hurts
the children. It also hurts the children who are gay because it says that
they are something to be ashamed of.
One other thing I saw in the comments:
Some people argue that gay people should not have rights because they can’t
procreated and therefore there marriage is not valid. Many straight couples
don’t have children… don’t that mean there marriage is any less valid?
Also we have 7 billion people on the earth; over population is killing out
plant, draining out resources, and creating millions of orphans. We don’t
need everyone to have children. We need more people to not have children
and we need more people to adopt.
I find this segment awfully desperate and pathetic. Anyone else?
In certain cultures, the institution of marriage was instated to ensure:
that women were properly taken care of by a husband since they couldn’t
inherit property or wealth, men could acquire a vessel to birth his seeds
for the purpose of continuing his lineage as well as gain an extra hand to
work his fields, a caretaker for his aging parents, and to align himself
with another wealthy family perhaps for business or political reasons. Yep,
folks, this is why MARRIAGE was instated. This is why it was always a union
between a man and a woman. Sometimes a man and several women. This is the
ugly truth of why there was MARRIAGE and it had nothing to do with love or
even religious beliefs. Through the years the role of husband and wife may
have changed but the definition remained the same. This is why progressive
heterosexuals are against the marriage institution as a whole. They want
nothing to do with it because of the implications behind it. The word
“marriage” has a way of driving one person to think they control the other.
In modern times, people at least got the opportunity to marry someone they
love but some of the expectations are still there when it comes to roles.
I’m not sure how homosexuals feel they fit into the real definition and
reasons behind a marriage. Truthfully, they’re better off the way they’ve
always been. IF it’s benefits that they want then they deserve that without
having to get “married”.
It’s not freedom if it’s not for everybody. Easy solution to this nonsense.
No more dependent tax breaks. Single people should pay more taxes, because
you have a wife/husband and or kids say what!!!! It’s wrong wrong wrong to
have any tax that is not paying the salary of a person who is not an
elected individual or public servant period. Taking a citizens money and
giving it to another citizen against their will is theft. There should be a
constitutional amendment that states that. Anyone who doesn’t agree with
what I’m saying is saying it’s okay to bribe voters with stolen money from
other voters who want freedom. Stop voter bribery and tyrannical tax
policies and watch freedom blossom for all in this country.
PARADISE IS FORBIDDEN TO ALL DYKES AND FAGGOTS
It’s probably more than 7%, seeing as studies into the demographic of
sexual orientation are enquiry-based, and therefore prone to
(understandable) dishonesty from those who aren’t out to anyone. The vested
interest for not admitting to it is considerable. (Again, understandable
due to the stigmatisation that homosexuality receives.) Either way, since
when did something’s being a minority 1) make it a mistake of nature, 2)
make it wrong, and 3) mean that it doesn’t warrant equality?
True but I’m guessing the ones that like their own gender wouldn’t be?
right ? you know ….a+b=C? -.-
“Homosexuality is wrong per biology.” False. Over 1500 species exhibit
homosexuality. “wrong per Sociology” False. Studies show that kids adopted
by same-sex parents are intrinsically no worse off than any others. “wrong
per logic” False. This argument is illogical. I could rattle off a list of
pairs of non-opposites that go together, it wouldn’t prove anything. “wrong
per all known civilization except modern day liberal countries.” False. It
was accepted in many ancient civilisations.
Who will determine the limits then? Will pederasts and necrophiles be
allowed to do what they wish?
“Racism” is nothing more than a tool to keep on forcing people to move all
over the place. If say all immigration stopped and the mixed people that
resulted after a few generations didn’t want other people on their land
they would then be called “racist”. It’s all lines and measurements created
in the mind. Culture comes from community and race. We are conditioned to
accept a continual period of never ending transition, entropy or evil if
you will because it is destructive to life and society.
What research would that be? From the National organization for marriage I
assume. Don’t assume to know everything about the gay community especially
since you aren’t gay. As for children, multiple studies have been conducted
and the conclusion was that children needed two loving parents. It didn’t
matter if they were two women, two men or a man and a women. You are just
flat out wrong. So if you have no ill will towards the gay community then
what is the purpose of your comments?
It’s separate because children are unable to consent due to their age.
Therefore pedophilia is harmful to children and rightfully illegal. Being a
pedophile and being gay are two completely different things! To equate the
two is offensive.
manong: Scientific medicine has shown clearly sexual orientation is not an
illness, not a choice and does not need to be changed. Like every human
rights advance, religious conservatives are the last on board. That is
changing. Also, homosexuality is RIGHT per biology, since EVERY species has
some percentage of homosexuality in it. And some ancient societies honored
homosexuals, i.e. Native American tribes who called the homosexual “two
spirit” and put them in the role of shaman.
-_____- I know it doesn’t make you non existent of course it doesn’t It’s
just not the optimal situation. Infants need to bond with a mother
breastfeeding,oxytocin, present in females during breastfeeding, The
bonding hormone. Anyways I know that plenty of situations aren’t optimal in
this world but I’m going to do what is optimal for my kids to become the
best adults they can be.
Dead people can leave items in their will but no dead person can consent to
anything! You must be alive. And the law says that statutory rape is
between when the girl or guy is to young to consent to a sexual act. Their
are physiological risks to my “mommy and brother” if they decided to get
married (thank god for being an only child hahaha) plus there are health
risks to any offspring that may result from the marriage therefore it was
criminalized. Don’t believe eveything Michelle Bachmann
Traditional marriage fails more then 50% of the time. How is an institution
like that considered successful?
If you don’t believe the APA, pick any independent medical organization on
the planet. They all agree SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS NOT A CHOICE.
Polygamy has been around longer then monogamy. No one is asking straight
people to become gay. The gay community is just asking for equal protection
under the law. If you don’t like gay sex, then don’t have it. If you don’t
like gay marriage then don’t enter into one. People like you need to mind
their own dam business
The only thing you could argue is that same sex couples can raise children
as well as (adoptive) straight parents. The study done by the American
Academy of Pediatrics was actually found to be inconclusive. I also worry
because the incidence of domestic violence among gay men is nearly double
that in the heterosexual population.
you’re a moron
This is another Galileo moment. Who are you going to believe, doctors?
Ancient dogmas or your own eyes? Brain scans show the differences in brain
structures of heterosexuals and homosexuals. They show the differences
forming in the womb.
against interracial marriage
The same way I’m not going to discus why people can’t “marry” Eiffel
towers, children, corpses from the graveyard, bigami – such people are in
need of psychiatric help, not a “marriage”. And stop lying about your
“independent” studies from APA and such.
many thought their racism was “moral”
I know lots of gay couples right in my church who wed, love one another,
make great neighbors, have children together through all the exact same
methods heterosexual couples who are infertile do. Gay couples add the same
things any other couple does to society.
It’s not going to have a huge impact on the relationship between a child
and their mother. Going back to the gay thing you think that gay people
shouldn’t get married because they can’t breastfeed? What about lesbians?
Twisting words around to say what you want them to say won’t get you
anywhere in life. A wise person doesn’t talk when there’s no one to listen.
Peace Bro
Your “authorized” medical institutions have shown that MSM is 5 more likely
to get STD infections than any others. It have shown homosexuals commit
more suicide because of self-caused mental illness. It have also shown that
they are not able to reproduce. It have shown that homosexuality is not
depend on hereditary genetics. All these factors are reasons that practice
of homosexuality cannot be considered normal diversity, but a destructive
habit. All these are facts and not “prejudice”.
right just little innocent soon to be men?
Although I’m not Christian and I recognize Christianity as a false
religion, I must say that Christianity never says that blacks should be
slaves! The fact is there is a legitimate reason to be against gay marriage
where there were no real reasons to be against interracial marriage.
could Kellys tongue be any further up O’Reilly’s ass. lol
dna is present…WTH.
dna is present even when you dye….that doesn’t mean you are alive.
what…saying that expanding the defention of marriage to gay people will
make us exclude people who want to marry goats.
its like saying you shouldn’t change the def. of marriage to include
interacial marriages because that would be unfair to people who want to
marry ducks.
DNA is present? Sperm has DNA also but they ain’t up there protesting
masturbation.
O Reilly : Half of all hetero marriages end in divorce, so the argument of
stability is CRAP ! Until you can prove half of all homo marriages also end
in divorce, you have no case, and since you want to ban gay marriage, your
argument is doomed from the start. Tradition does not mean it is right,
slavery was a tradition too.
Hate to correct you Bill, but the culture war has already been won, and
progressive, freedom seekers WON, and religious fascists LOST. This
happened back in the 80’s and Fox News apparently is so behind the times
they think religious bigots have the right to trample over everyone else’s
freedom to marry who they love.
I dont understand his argument. Which other groups would want to get
married? The federal government supports heterosexual marriage , why not
gay marriage?
I completely agree with O’Reilly. I’m fed up with all the religious-based
arguments against gay marriage. They should all just shut up! First of all,
there are plenty of secular reasons for marriage that has no religious
foundation at all. Many cultures outside the major world religions define
marriage between man and woman so when Bible thumpers cite God, I CRINGE!
Instead of throwing religion into the battle, why not ask homosexuals why
they need to practice a “heterosexual” union to feel equal? First of all,
they shouldn’t have to conform to mainstream ideals to be accepted and
receive the same benefits.
He says that the supreme court can not allow gay rights because that power
is not granted in the constitution.
This is absolutely not true. The civil rights of our citizens are
protected–you can not deny certain citizens rights. “We hold these truths
to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.” The supreme court has
ruled to protect african americans rights and they have voted to protect
gay americans rights (by striking down DAMA).
He also says that gay people can have civil unions so the definition of
marriage is not expanded.
This is also wrong in so many ways. That is the same argument that
segregationists used when they talked about the importance of separate but
equal. By saying you can’t have a marriage you can only have a contract
that makes gay people second class citizens. Also, how does it effect you
if gay people can marry? Has your marriage been effected because gay people
can marry in some states now? If it bothers you that two people can be in
love and call it the same word that you call your relationship, just don’t
think about it and it wont effect you.
Lastly, (although I could probable rant for an hour about this) he says
that marriage is a stabilizer of society. How would it be any less
stabilized if more people could be joined in marriage. Study after study
shows that children of gay people do just as well as children of straight
couple. But denying their parents to get married or telling them you can’t
call it the same thing as us because we disapprove of it or it is against
our religion or we don’t think it is as good as our marriage–that hurts
the children. It also hurts the children who are gay because it says that
they are something to be ashamed of.
One other thing I saw in the comments:
Some people argue that gay people should not have rights because they can’t
procreated and therefore there marriage is not valid. Many straight couples
don’t have children… don’t that mean there marriage is any less valid?
Also we have 7 billion people on the earth; over population is killing out
plant, draining out resources, and creating millions of orphans. We don’t
need everyone to have children. We need more people to not have children
and we need more people to adopt.
I find this segment awfully desperate and pathetic. Anyone else?
In certain cultures, the institution of marriage was instated to ensure:
that women were properly taken care of by a husband since they couldn’t
inherit property or wealth, men could acquire a vessel to birth his seeds
for the purpose of continuing his lineage as well as gain an extra hand to
work his fields, a caretaker for his aging parents, and to align himself
with another wealthy family perhaps for business or political reasons. Yep,
folks, this is why MARRIAGE was instated. This is why it was always a union
between a man and a woman. Sometimes a man and several women. This is the
ugly truth of why there was MARRIAGE and it had nothing to do with love or
even religious beliefs. Through the years the role of husband and wife may
have changed but the definition remained the same. This is why progressive
heterosexuals are against the marriage institution as a whole. They want
nothing to do with it because of the implications behind it. The word
“marriage” has a way of driving one person to think they control the other.
In modern times, people at least got the opportunity to marry someone they
love but some of the expectations are still there when it comes to roles.
I’m not sure how homosexuals feel they fit into the real definition and
reasons behind a marriage. Truthfully, they’re better off the way they’ve
always been. IF it’s benefits that they want then they deserve that without
having to get “married”.
It’s not freedom if it’s not for everybody. Easy solution to this nonsense.
No more dependent tax breaks. Single people should pay more taxes, because
you have a wife/husband and or kids say what!!!! It’s wrong wrong wrong to
have any tax that is not paying the salary of a person who is not an
elected individual or public servant period. Taking a citizens money and
giving it to another citizen against their will is theft. There should be a
constitutional amendment that states that. Anyone who doesn’t agree with
what I’m saying is saying it’s okay to bribe voters with stolen money from
other voters who want freedom. Stop voter bribery and tyrannical tax
policies and watch freedom blossom for all in this country.
PARADISE IS FORBIDDEN TO ALL DYKES AND FAGGOTS
It’s probably more than 7%, seeing as studies into the demographic of
sexual orientation are enquiry-based, and therefore prone to
(understandable) dishonesty from those who aren’t out to anyone. The vested
interest for not admitting to it is considerable. (Again, understandable
due to the stigmatisation that homosexuality receives.) Either way, since
when did something’s being a minority 1) make it a mistake of nature, 2)
make it wrong, and 3) mean that it doesn’t warrant equality?
True but I’m guessing the ones that like their own gender wouldn’t be?
right ? you know ….a+b=C? -.-
“Homosexuality is wrong per biology.” False. Over 1500 species exhibit
homosexuality. “wrong per Sociology” False. Studies show that kids adopted
by same-sex parents are intrinsically no worse off than any others. “wrong
per logic” False. This argument is illogical. I could rattle off a list of
pairs of non-opposites that go together, it wouldn’t prove anything. “wrong
per all known civilization except modern day liberal countries.” False. It
was accepted in many ancient civilisations.
Who will determine the limits then? Will pederasts and necrophiles be
allowed to do what they wish?
“Racism” is nothing more than a tool to keep on forcing people to move all
over the place. If say all immigration stopped and the mixed people that
resulted after a few generations didn’t want other people on their land
they would then be called “racist”. It’s all lines and measurements created
in the mind. Culture comes from community and race. We are conditioned to
accept a continual period of never ending transition, entropy or evil if
you will because it is destructive to life and society.
What research would that be? From the National organization for marriage I
assume. Don’t assume to know everything about the gay community especially
since you aren’t gay. As for children, multiple studies have been conducted
and the conclusion was that children needed two loving parents. It didn’t
matter if they were two women, two men or a man and a women. You are just
flat out wrong. So if you have no ill will towards the gay community then
what is the purpose of your comments?
It’s separate because children are unable to consent due to their age.
Therefore pedophilia is harmful to children and rightfully illegal. Being a
pedophile and being gay are two completely different things! To equate the
two is offensive.
manong: Scientific medicine has shown clearly sexual orientation is not an
illness, not a choice and does not need to be changed. Like every human
rights advance, religious conservatives are the last on board. That is
changing. Also, homosexuality is RIGHT per biology, since EVERY species has
some percentage of homosexuality in it. And some ancient societies honored
homosexuals, i.e. Native American tribes who called the homosexual “two
spirit” and put them in the role of shaman.
-_____- I know it doesn’t make you non existent of course it doesn’t It’s
just not the optimal situation. Infants need to bond with a mother
breastfeeding,oxytocin, present in females during breastfeeding, The
bonding hormone. Anyways I know that plenty of situations aren’t optimal in
this world but I’m going to do what is optimal for my kids to become the
best adults they can be.
Dead people can leave items in their will but no dead person can consent to
anything! You must be alive. And the law says that statutory rape is
between when the girl or guy is to young to consent to a sexual act. Their
are physiological risks to my “mommy and brother” if they decided to get
married (thank god for being an only child hahaha) plus there are health
risks to any offspring that may result from the marriage therefore it was
criminalized. Don’t believe eveything Michelle Bachmann
Traditional marriage fails more then 50% of the time. How is an institution
like that considered successful?
If you don’t believe the APA, pick any independent medical organization on
the planet. They all agree SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS NOT A CHOICE.
Polygamy has been around longer then monogamy. No one is asking straight
people to become gay. The gay community is just asking for equal protection
under the law. If you don’t like gay sex, then don’t have it. If you don’t
like gay marriage then don’t enter into one. People like you need to mind
their own dam business
The only thing you could argue is that same sex couples can raise children
as well as (adoptive) straight parents. The study done by the American
Academy of Pediatrics was actually found to be inconclusive. I also worry
because the incidence of domestic violence among gay men is nearly double
that in the heterosexual population.
you’re a moron
This is another Galileo moment. Who are you going to believe, doctors?
Ancient dogmas or your own eyes? Brain scans show the differences in brain
structures of heterosexuals and homosexuals. They show the differences
forming in the womb.
against interracial marriage
The same way I’m not going to discus why people can’t “marry” Eiffel
towers, children, corpses from the graveyard, bigami – such people are in
need of psychiatric help, not a “marriage”. And stop lying about your
“independent” studies from APA and such.
many thought their racism was “moral”
I know lots of gay couples right in my church who wed, love one another,
make great neighbors, have children together through all the exact same
methods heterosexual couples who are infertile do. Gay couples add the same
things any other couple does to society.
It’s not going to have a huge impact on the relationship between a child
and their mother. Going back to the gay thing you think that gay people
shouldn’t get married because they can’t breastfeed? What about lesbians?
Twisting words around to say what you want them to say won’t get you
anywhere in life. A wise person doesn’t talk when there’s no one to listen.
Peace Bro
Your “authorized” medical institutions have shown that MSM is 5 more likely
to get STD infections than any others. It have shown homosexuals commit
more suicide because of self-caused mental illness. It have also shown that
they are not able to reproduce. It have shown that homosexuality is not
depend on hereditary genetics. All these factors are reasons that practice
of homosexuality cannot be considered normal diversity, but a destructive
habit. All these are facts and not “prejudice”.
right just little innocent soon to be men?
Although I’m not Christian and I recognize Christianity as a false
religion, I must say that Christianity never says that blacks should be
slaves! The fact is there is a legitimate reason to be against gay marriage
where there were no real reasons to be against interracial marriage.