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If you remove gun murders from the equation the murder rate per capita in
UK is very similar to the US but guns have no effect on murder rates
apparently
More guns of law abiding citizens yes. More guns in the hands of criminals.
Its like this Criminals will have guns no matter what laws there are. If
you abide by the law that says you cant have guns than the Criminals would
have guns. If you have a gun and the criminal has a gun than its more even.
its not safer its just more even. Who says that some of that increase of
death wasn’t from people shooting criminals?
So a convicted felon can purchase a firearm in Missouri? Hmm. I love
firearms and target shooting and always have since I was born. I think
that some people should not own firearms but the majority of people who are
interested should own firearms. So background checks are like the only way
to tell the difference, right?
60 more people per year sounds too small to be statistically significant if
we’re considering the entire state of Missouri. There’s about a 50 death
fluctuation in firearms deaths in Canada per year and we only have about
200 deaths a year due to firearms, and 80% of those are suicides. We also
add new laws and regulations all the time.
Also there has been a huge increase in firearm sales after Obama declared
he wanted to ban guns. Unsurprisingly this didn’t result in more shootings,
and the young turks even admit there is a reduction in murder rate across
the entire united states. The Young Turks just contradicted themselves by
saying more guns equals more murder since more people own guns than ever
and there is a reduction in murder rates. If any of this data means
anything it shows that the more law abiding citizens own guns the lower the
murder rate.
I think people who “love” guns, really love the male member. They need to
have
a fat dick hanging in their faces to discover their real love.
Guns aren’t the problem, drugs are, legalize drugs and there’ll be no
criminals shooting everyone up.
Q) How many NRA members does it take to change a light bulb?
A) MORE GUNS!!!!!
More (Law Abiding) citizens with guns reduce overall crime against other
people. You really think more guns in the hands of criminals means the same
thing? Your ignorance never fails to amaze me, Cenk. You can spin this
until you are blue in the face, but it still doesn’t change the fact. Nice
try.
I swear these guys are just trolling. I’m expecting them to make a video
one day saying, “We were just trolling, we just wanted to see how much
bullshit we could spew.”
It’s true, guns don’t kill people, but they *do* make it a lot easier to
kill people safely, usually from a distance. There’s no question you’d see
a lower murder rate if people didn’t have guns, and instead were forced to
get up close and personal with a blunt weapon, a blade, or their hands if
they wanted to kill someone.
People keep on saying how guns are strictly prohibited in Europe make it
much safer. Oh really? Explain Ukraine. People seem to forget that the
insane people wear suits and ties and sit in government offices regardless
of political affiliation as well.
Wouldnt itbe a good Idea to keep, at least, the crazy people and criminals
away from fire arms?
How dishonest. The law did not change anything in selling firearms. It
clarified what was already happening. In most states, private sales do not
require background checks. Private sales did not change at all before or
after the law. Stop being dishonest.
Minnesota still has their P2P, and their homicide rate went up as well.
This Proves nothing other than more criminals used illegal firearms to kill
people, innocent or not.
If you think guns are bad, just wait…
Wait until some pissed off Arab teenager figures out how to make his own
WMD’s.
Can you imagine some inner city youth with a penchant for violence getting
their hands on something from Stephen King’s, “The Stand”?
The massive number of shoot outs is a concern as well. When the police stop
blasting away at the people, I’m sure the shoot out death rate will drop.
Finally, every argument for gun control falls away when being shot at. That
moment will be one full of the desire for weapons and armor. When a gunman
is on the prowl, the best place to be is inside your tank.
But then the pissed off Arab kid will get you with it’s WMD.
I so adore Irony.
Look, you have to be a brain dead idiot to think that this hair brained
scheme of removing background checks was not going to produce this result.
In fact that was the plan, It was a dishonest calculation to have it fail
so that they could use this as a way to discredit the truth being said by
the gun nation. We have said that trying to introduce a so-called
comprehensive background check will not work simply because we already have
one and it doesn’t work as you think it should. Government is giving a
false sense of hope in saying that it would fix the problem, it won’t. What
we have been saying is that they need to fix the system we have now, not
take it out but fix it before making a new law. Background checks help
deter bad people from trying to buy guns because they have criminal police
records but it doesn’t stop the bad guy who has never been caught yet or
who has never been charged of a crime from buying one, even with the new
check! There was a motive in removing the background check altogether, it
was to try to discredit and make it seem that what we have been saying is
wrong! We are not asking to remove background checks, we are asking to fix
what we have and to enforce the laws that are in place before making some
new law that they will not be enforce just like the ones they don’t enforce
now, it only serves to give false hope to the American people! If our
thoughtful government is so interested in having private sales or person to
person gun sale be safe why don’t they give us a phone number that we could
call to check the person we are trying to sell to. Why do we have to pay
some one to do this transaction? It’s about money that’s why! I can not
have a gun on my person outside of the house “UNLESS” I pay uncle Sam in my
case 67 dollars. Once I pay that fee I can carry a concealed firearm. They
have no problem collecting that money and letting me carry a gun huh! It’s
all hypocrisy!
I live in the center of Missouri…and own a lot of guns…and I feel very
safe. Oh, but try to take them in any way or make me register etc. I’ll use
them…good luck.
The more gun nuts oppose background checks and even the most basic
regulations designed to keep CRIMINALS from obtaining guns then the more
likely there will be a backlash against EVERYONE owning guns. Its common
sense people.
This study is ridiculous, Missouri sheriffs did not conduct Background
checks when they issued the handgun permits, those were done when you
purchased the handgun at the store through the FBI NICS system. A permit
was not required to purchase a long gun.
Furthermore no permit was required when purchasing from an individual.
The very notion of this study is flawed, based on a premise that just isn’t
true.
It really depends. The issue simply isn’t that black-and-white like people
make it out to be.
Thanks for the video Cenk. It reminded me to renew my NRA membership
GTA 3 Radio chatterbox: Guns don’t kill people, Death kills people, its a
medical fact ask your doctor.
What? More guns means more shootings? Derp derp! I am stupid
conservative.. derp… that don’t make sense to me! DERP!
Even a monkey can use a gun. When you give guns to a society filled with
stupid uneducated people, you get deaths. The only time guns would ever
work as protection is if everyone had the IQ greater than a monkey. Sadly,
the majority of the population doesn’t.
Id be willing to bet that those 60+ murders were criminals attacking a home
they thought wasnt armed and got themselves shot. i could be wrong, but no
talk of that right? the entire argument is that the definition of a
criminal is someone who does not obey the law. so explain to me how writing
more words on a piece of paper is going to magically make these people obey
the law? the only thing it does is hurt law abiding citizens.
More bad guys were killed.
It is better that someone murder another person with a knife than with a
gun..
Please follow me here..
If all murders were made with knifes, DNA material, fingerprints, and
security cameras would be more helpful in the search of the murderer..
The issue with a gun is that you can stand 50 yards away and shoot someone.
That makes it a lot more difficult for the police to find the murder,
because the DNA doesn’t prove anything.
If you find my hair 50 yards away i could have just dropped it on the
street walking by, but if i made a murder with a knife, it would be very
easy to get me off the street so i don’t do this again..
That is why the murder rate in USA beats all other countries..
More guns make a country safer just like more shit makes a toilet cleaner.
I want my IQ points back.
Wait, Cenk… You are blaming the guns when it is clear that the fact that
a background check was not performed allowed guns to get in the hands of
people who would not have gotten them otherwise. Why are you deliberately
confusing the issue here?
Guns in the hands of law abiding citizens makes things safer. Guns in the
hands of bad guys are never a good thing. The key point is the person
holding the gun, not the gun itself. Background checks are a good way to
keep guns out of the hands of people that should not get them. It is no
wonder that without these background checks, some bad people got guns and
used them to do bad things.
I don’t see why you are confusing the issue here.
sure. That’s why, even as more and more states allow concealed carry, as
more and more people apply for their first license, and more guns are being
sold across the country, violent crime rates in America have been going
down for years. Because more guns mean more crime. Oh wait…
Income gap, lack of social mobility, and organized crime drive crime rates.
Not lawfully owned firearms.
But whatever it takes to get clicks. And yes, add a picture of a boy with a
gun. Whatever it takes, Cenk.
You do know Piers Morgan is out, right?
I live in Canada so I don’t have these problems just as other countries do
as well. The US is just getting ridiculous!
Yeah, don’t use common sense and factor in the worst economy from 2007 till
now, yeah don’t factor in more stress and more crime because of a bad
economy. If you have the hubris to make a video like this at least expose
your government sold guns to the mexican drug cartel with fast and furious
aka the ATF gunwalking scandal.
“we have a shooting at a mall or a school everyday” no, we don’t actually.
*correlation does not imply causation*
You can’t compare Missouri to other states.
It’s such a different culture.
;)
What a fucking joke…I hope that all of these likes are CIA fucktards and
not just a ton of idiots getting duped and indoctrinated….just wishful
thinking that I’m sure is in vain.
I really think it’s time for gun nuts to admit what this really is all
about. Cmon. No seriously come on it’s cause it makes you feel big and
tough to carry a gun. So here’s a state the stops checking for ID when
selling guns and not surprisingly the murder rate goes up. Apparently
making guys easier to buy for the bad guy and people get murdered more.
Bravo. Considering most criminals are better at using guns and tend to get
the drop on people instead of a straight up fight no wonder this happens!
Do you honestly expect people to walk up to other people and challenge them
to a wild western shootout winner takes all? Look personal protection is
fine but gun regulation is a good fucking thing. There’s ALWAYS gonna be a
black market but gun regulation at least ensures that the nut jobs can’t
have easier access
If guns were all banned and they were not sold at all less people would be
able to kill with guns.Less guns less gun crime it doesn’t take a genius to
work that out.Saying guns in the hands of good people is good is a load of
rubbish guns anywhere means potential murder people should stop the selling
of guns at all so that it is much harder to get a gun as it would be
illegal and then there should be less gun crimes and less murders a person
will only ever use a gun to kill so why would you want any of the public
having it and if they kill (bad person or criminal) with a gun then there a
murderer for killing them and so they are criminals it is a bad cycle and
if you reduce the amount of guns by making sure people can only get there
hands on one illegally then gun crime would be reduced as in a place like
England where you cannot carry guns cos it is illegal there is less gun
crime that proves my point.
Since gun gun bans in the UK and Australia their violent crime rates have
skyrocketed. For the year 2011 the U.S. FBI shows 386 violent crimes per
100,000 U.S. citizens. For the UK that same year the number was 2,034
violent crimes per 100,000.
In the 10 years after the Australian gun ban of 1996 their violent crime
rate went up over 41% and it’s still skyrocketing.
Criminals and corrupt politicians prefer unarmed victims.
so if you look at the entire country, you can see an overall drop in murder
rates and an increase in gun ownership. How about those stats? No? Ok.
50 people in an entire state is a spike? umm. someone really needs to teach
this guy what defence weapons mean.
just like drugs if someone wants to get them they will. you really think
gang members are gonna give a shit if it’s illegal? i live in chicago, you
know that place that has the highest gun murder rate yet the highest gun
restrictions? cenk you’re a fucking idiot
If guns don’t kill people but people kill people then shouldn’t we not give
people guns? Sure a gun just lying on a table or in a drawer won’t kill
someone but put that gun in the hands of one of those killer humans then
who knows what will happen.
You young turds
It’s just a lack of respect for humanity. I would never own one, I don’t
believe we should kill for any reason.