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I’m sorry I have not heard more from you as you seem to be looking
logically at things. I would put to you that its not gay rights that
undermine marriage but women’s rights. No longer are women required to obey
their husbands and in the ending of a marriage the women is generally
looked after financially. So to me with these rights in place how can we
make marriage work this day and age. If women dont need men to support
them… as soon as there is a bump in the relationship their free to get
divorced…. marriage certainly isn’t what it use to be..So how do we fix
marriage to have a family units for child rearing…?
I wonder where those public school classes in “how to be a homosexual” are
being taught and why no else, specifically local school boards, have
noticed them?
I see good ole Dave is backing up his homophobia and ignorance with some
good old fashion fear mongering. Old school style! Stating that
homosexuality was the cause of the fall of the Greek and Roman empires is
absurd, untrue, or should I say, a flat out lie, and a fundie claim that
has been successfully propagated and used for decades to invoke fear and
abhorrence toward gays. For those of you not familiar with this argument,
it goes like this:
“Every civilization that has accepted homosexuality into their societies
has crumbled. Just look at the ancient Romans and the Greeks.”
Implications as to how this equates to America are all that is needed to
make their flocks panic!
Vile propaganda and complete bullshit! Yet it works on the fearful vacuous
listeners that Dave and his ilk pander to.
Oooh, I want to take a class on how to be gay! Lectures would be fabulous!
Heterosexual divorces are just fine ruining marriage, waste of human flesh.
For an anti-Gay bigot he makes a lousy Greek/Roman historian!
*”The culture is moving in that direction.”*
No, the culture has already BEEN in that direction. You’re just catching
up.
Worship of one’s family is a Roman Pagan custom NOT a Christian one.
One of the most detrimental aspects of US society today is the absolute
ignorance of the bat-shit-crazy right and their attempts to turn the US
into a fundamentalist Christian theocracy.
No, Dave, just because you had to teach yourself how to be straight in
order to try and silence the screaming self loathing in your head, it
doesn’t mean that schools teach how to be gay. You can’t teach that.
I’d imagine that a lot of people in Latin America and the Middle East would
be happy if the American Empire implodes itself by embracing gay rights!
I suppose this is true as far as his ‘vision’ of America goes, won’t it be
nice when that process is completed. It is strange but somehow these
mythology malcontents seem to think that all civil rights, human rights,
personal rights, equal rights, marriage rights, religious rights, sexual
rights etc. must always conform to their own bigoted idea of rights without
exception. Isn’t it amazing at what they seem to garner from ‘The Good
Book’.
I love how Fundies, who have never set foot inside a public school, believe
that they’re actually teaching courses like “How to be a homosexual.”
The downfall of marriage was never because of gays; the American family was
always in trouble before gay marriage was ever an issue.
Yes Denmark and Switzerland have collapsed all thanks to the gays.
projection: tolerance isn’t teaching, it’s accepting. They can’t, so they
must “teach” to hate
Look at the Roman Empire… ummm… it adopted Christianity and
spectacularly collapsed.
Oh no, gay couples might start visiting their loved ones in the hospitals
and filing joint tax returns! GASP AND HORROR!
This guy clearly has no idea about history.
What the heck is he implying about Denmark? Denmark is the top scoring
country for the *happiest* people in the world. There is no reports of
family breaking up or kids’ lives in danger because Denmark etc. secure the
well-being of their gay citizens. If this man wants to know about family
break-ups, he needs to read his Bible.
I doubt that this guy even has an IQ above 65. He wants to protect America
by dividing it. Right, just like George Wallace wanted to protect the south
and the state of Alabama from integration.
When did the ancient Greeks stop living in family units? When did the
Romans ban marriage?
The Roman Empire began to crumble when they scrapped their original policy
of absorbing local religions and allowing religious freedom and tried to
impose and enforce a strict state controlled monotheistic religion called
Christianity.
Because it’s perfectly rational to believe an all powerful creator of an
entire universe is brassed off about two jumped up monkeys having anal and
oral sex.
The only time that the Ancient Greeks had an empire was under Alexander of
Macedonia, and it fell apart only because he left it to his generals. It
had nothing to do with the collapse of the family.
Likewise, the Western Roman Empire fell to barbarian invasions, while the
Eastern Roman Empire fell to the Ottoman Empire. Again, nothing to do with
the collapse of family units.
But, that’s contemporary right wing politics for you. It requires an
arrant falsification of history and facts in order to make its case.
Do these morons not realize that gay couples are going to commit to one
another whether or not gay marriage is legal? All the marriage thing does
is clear away a lot of crappy legal problems that arise for a couple that
is unwed. The gay couples are still going to have their relationship
whether or not there’s a second-class-citizenship wall in front of their
noses. Legalizing gay marriage just makes things easier for them, their
employers, and for the state.
I guess he calling America an Empire?
Governing with republicans is like rooming with a meth addict.
They govern based on fear of non-existent threats
The Greek Empire (to which I am going to look at Alexander’s Empire) fell
because it was never that well put together in the first place. Alexander
gave his generals turkey or egypt or Mesopotamia or part of India and that
was that. It was held together by one individual who did not have an heir.
The Roman Empire fell for a variety of reasons, but the biggest one (IMO)
had to do with the damage which was inflicted by the Barracks Emperors in
the 3rd century constantly having civil wars for the Imperial Throne.
Christianity did not do a damn thing to prevent the western roman empire’s
collapse
The Netherlands and Denmark are doing pretty great! Everyone in Finland
gets together for an annual orgy and yet they have the best education in
the world.