The “glass closet” is a term used for a gay person, usually a public figure or celebrity, who has never publicly come out as being gay — yet is out to their…
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Especially for those who are already supportive of the community, isn’t it
a bit of a precipitous notion to say that of you are gay you must therefore
publicly and actively fight for a certain set of gay rights by being out?
It’s a sad position to be in where your position of being gay is attacked
and then to have your choice to be apolitical then also attacked. It may be
a shame to miss out for the community, but to have that thrust upon someone
who’s life is already an internal struggle to come out privately, to then
be told you must come out publicly? That’s tough.
Out & proud.
From personal experience I learned that in spite of the tolerant facade
companies have, if you are gay it’s not a matter of a glass closet, but a
concrete vault. Through all of my corporate work history I did my best to
assimilate, keep a low profile and avoid mentioning my private life.
Still, I found out some years later that every company I worked for knew I
was gay because they, especially the huge corporations I worked for, make a
point of quietly inquiring about the private lives of their employees. So
keeping yourself in the closet is an exercise in self deception and self
imprisonment.
I found that I had to out perform my fellow employees just to get a good
performance review while straight employees that were total goof offs might
not get good reviews but still got nice raises and promotions. I never
received a promotion. In fact, after I left one job, in spite of lots of
great performance reviews I found out that I was the one making the least
amount of money in the department.
Companies in recent years have been getting more sophisticated in their
discrimination, like one company I was at in the early 1990s brought in
this guy from some right wing think tank for a seminar to tell us how to be
good employees. He told us that things like sexual orientation, political
and religious views, etc. were all fluid, that a good employee should be
willing to be socially engineered to be in line with corporate views. Sort
of, since the company pays your salary they own your complete ass.
Companies have also redefined diversity. A manager at a one of the last
contract jobs I had told me that diversity means that gay people should be
open to turning straight. She wanted all her employees to be romantic
straight couples because I guess in that way they wouldn’t notice they were
being paid sh*t and didn’t have any benefits. Lots of laughs with that.
I’ve been out for a number of years now and the whole b.s. of maintaining a
closet is just that – b.s.
Let’s have a Kiki!
George Clooney, Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Queen Latifah,
If you don’t put that list up I’m going to adopt a cat from a no kill
shelter and put it to sleep.
Be gay… cool. However, why do the majority of gay men sound lispy with
high pitched voices and are flaming. Why don’t you guys sound like men? Be
gay, but be manly about it, not feminine. This is why I truly believe the
vaccinations given at birth actually injected you with estrogen to make you
gay. I don’t believe you were born that way, you were made that way.
Granted not all men have had the same injections. I believe some injections
had it and some had other diseases in them made to come about later in life
causing sickness, i.e. cancer and other illnesses like autism. You can do
the research like Eustace Mullins book “Murder by Injection”, just to name
one source. But, there are many others like this.
And every member of o2l
names, i want NAMES!!!!!!!!!!
Kevin Spacey, Queen Latifah, Colton Haynes
I was thinking Harry Styles…. Kristen Stewart. They aren’t even trying to
hide it anymore tbh.
I think its sad that it even matters. Who cares what sexual preferences a
person has, its their personal life and you have no business one way or
another to meddle in stated personal life. Live and let live or in this
case love and let love!
You people probably may be better off ,living and letting live, I say
before you all become a new kind of American bullying class, I’m just
saying “
Kevin Spacey, Colton Haynes…
pretty sure Davey is referring to Joey Graceffa
John Travolta.
Coming out or not coming out shouldn’t be an issue, simply put.
Treating homosexuality as something that defines you is not the right way
to go about it imo.
I have gay friends, and usually they bring it up, but they do so to be open
and avoid bullshit down the road.
When we reach a place where there ARE no consequences, there will be no
need to “come out” because it wont matter and that will be a good thing.
Think of it like this:
Coming out in pageantry and with a fanfare is annoying, even to gay folks
in the media.
Nonchalantly saying it on social media, without treating it like a big
deal, is much stronger (and TYT has discussed that very thing)
I absolutely understand the frustration, but I think a person has no
obligation to participate in a social movement, no matter how personally
effected by it.
Barbara Mikulski, Hillary Clinton, and, . . . . . .
I’m annoyed at this video.
The only people in this position I truly despise are GOTP gays who actively
work for the wrong-wing in spite of who and what they are. Here’s a
politician: David Dreier, who left Congress in 2013, but was an appalling
POS while he was still in, even while living with his male Chief of Staff.
Dave, you really should just have named the people on your list or not
mentioned it at all. It’s kinda annoying that you had a list, talked about
the list and showed it to your guests but not us. We, the most important
people for your shows success, are left in the dark. Not very nice!
It’s not required of them, never was and never will be, but if one day we
find out, I think it’s only natural to say well, he kept his privileged ass
in the closet while I got kicked in the teeth for being only half as much
of a cocksucker as he is, thanks a fucking lot brother, now go ahead and
hate me if I suddenly don’t like you as much any more.
The glass closet is where they keep the spare parts for the school to
prison pipeline. It’s in a secret location, somewhere out in the middle of
the food desert.
Queen Latifah
Joseph Gordon Levitt
Joe Jonas
Seth McFarlane
I’ve been watching Dave for years on TYT and only just read now that he’s
gay! Shocked ha.
Justin beiber?…..
I came out a few months after turning 15 and in 9th grade
Some people are more private about parts of there lives then others.
the baseball player Mike Piazza, is one of those straight people who
doesn’t talk about that part of his life, Some people accused him of being
gay, at first he didn’t comment because he didn’t care too but it was so
exciting to get the find that first gay athlete that he finally held a
press conference to say he was straight, but he didn’t care if there was a
gay player on his team.
James Randy never came out partially because no one asked him, But when
is it the right time to say. “Hello everybody I just like to mention I am
straight? (or gay)”
I get that there is discrimination against gay people and the best way to
fight that discrimination is to be out, but being out is most effective to
friends and family,
Was one of them louis tomlinson? I really feel like one of the names on
that paper was!
I really want the names on that list.
Kevin Spacey, dude, everybody knows.
Who sits around obsessing over other people’s sexuality other than some gay
men? I don’t understand people who bitch and about an issue they seem to
create themselves. I don’t give a rats ass who this or that celebrity is in
a relationship with. That knowledge doesn’t change my world so who cares.
This BS about people coming out to “support the cause” is so much crap.
When people say they want someone to come out publicly what they are really
saying is “I made a big deal out of my sexuality and got shit for it so you
should have to also.” It has nothing to do with helping kids or supporting
any cause. It’s about someone else who is pissed you didn’t go the same
route as they did. Most of the gay men I know are living their lives and
not concerned with the nonsense some in the gay community try to make
people believe they are.
I wonder who are the 4 but I think is the queen
I came out when I was 11 because I didn’t know that a closet existed…
Oops?
Considering Dave Rubin publicly derided the entire gay media for NOT outing
Florida Gov. Charlie Crist … I don’t know what to make of this
discussion.
Is Rubin a political activist who feels alleged “hypocrites” should be
outed, or that he is an ethical news figure who understands that
celebrities need to come out on their own terms, or is he unable to express
his full thoughts because he and TYT might face expensive lawsuits and
public condemnation?
I do appreciate the conversation, and the two guests seem more measured in
their understanding of the situations that might be facing “the four names
on this piece of paper.”
Perhaps, Rubin might not want to share his criticisms of others’ efforts
when he cannot bring himself to report on the speculation, rumors, loose
facts and suppositions that he himself won’t disclose. If anyone has
displayed a lack of support for other gay people … refrain from throwing
stones in glass closets, Rubin, please.
Totally agree with the dude in the glasses. As long as you’re not being a
hypocritical asshole, like Ted Haggard, then who cares if you’re gay?
Okay now I’m really curious about who was on that list..
Fan of the Show but not a fan of this video. I’m gay myself but I do not
like when Straight People use terms like “Closeted” when discussing someone
who prefers the same sex just because they do not broadcast to the world
their personal business. I especially get annoyed when fellow Gays promote
that idiotic notation that was obviously handed down by the Straight
Normative Society. Absolutely no one has the right to know anyone’s sexual
preference as it is personal to each individual. Some people actually
prefer the public to focus on who they are as a person and their character
rather than who they choose to sleep with in the privacy of their bedrooms.
Sexuality is only a small part of who we all are and not everyone chooses
to wear it on their sleeves. It’s not always about hiding or being scared
to come out and that is a very sad belief brought forth by society. Only
thing I agree with is the “Hypocrisy” statements. As long as someone
doesn’t deny who they are to themselves and is honest with themselves, I am
totally fine with them keeping their preferences to themselves. And I feel
like its an unrecognized bully tactic for people to tell their personal
business. Being “in the closet” is used as a derogatory term for people
who choose not to discuss their sexual preference to the public for
whatever personal reason. It is used in a way to shame those who do not
comply with the “Straight World Societal Rules” or the “Gay Movements”
because keeping personal business isn’t helping satisfying either. I cant
say it enough [No one has the right to know anyone’s personal business or
sexual preference so stop demonizing those who choose to keep their
business to themselves.]
Why even write the list if you weren’t going to say the names? Dumb.
I hope the news one isn’t Anderson Cooper because he came out like half a
year ago.
But I bet Dave doesn’t know that, so I bet it was Anderson Cooper.
This is the worst segment ever. It wouldn’t have been outing them by
discussing. If you didn’t want to give the names you should have done a
different topic or presented it differently. Other than that I love your
show
Harry, Kristen and Joey…
gay panel is success. interesting perspectives.
Harry, Kristen and Joey…
Why does absolutely everyone have to be open? Can’t some people be more
open than others, express themselves but then some people don’t feel the
need to put that out there. I know there are repercussions to being open
about your sexuality, especially if it’s not a traditional one. But do we
need repercussions for people who think it’s their business but not ours?
You should embrace your sexuality and gender identity but not everyone
NEEDS to know about it if you don’t want to
Why should any person come out gay if they don’t want to