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The best part of this was your attempt at a Russian accent XD
5 years for man sex? harshness!
so much knowledge in such a wonderful headface xx (also apparently
according to youtube i am not subscribed!!) ((i am now))
I realize it’s not the main point, but it bothers me when wrong facts are
used to support an opinion, especially a decent one. Putin was explaining
is view on difference between banning something and banning “propoganda of
this something”, so he actually meant “don’t promote these relations to
children” rather than he was talking about paedophilia. I wonder if these
first two lines were deliberately left out when quoted in media.
No disrespect to Billy Jean King, but true executive authority can only be
derived through a mandate from the masses, not some farcical tennis match
that happened 40 years ago!
Loved the tone of this, and great coverage on the issue as always 🙂 I
don’t really have anything to add to the debate here, but i’m glad that it
looks like athletes and journalists will be safe now.
You heard about this documentary coming up on channel 4 tonight? (Warning:
very distressing.)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a548991/gay-hunting-season-in-russia-shocking-documentary-everyone-should-see.html
Every civilised country should have boycotted. Without consequences,
there’s no incentive for Russia, Qatar or every other homophobic hellhole
on the planet to crack down on this kind of behaviour and start treating
gay people like human beings. The whole thing makes me sick.
That accent is wonderful.
But seriously, great balance of light heartedness and seriousness
Discriminating against countries that don’t have laws that are ‘liberal
enough’ for the Western world isn’t going to make the countries want to
change. More likely to cause turmoil. It’s not even about the laws, it’s
about the attitudes. It’s good that Sochi 2014 made (more) people question
the legislation and attitudes toward LGBT in Russia. All of the
documentaries that have come of this are really scary and hopefully will
put more people into action and make Russia a safer place. Maybe I’m too
naive, but oh well:/
Very interesting things you pointed out! I think we should ask ourselves:
are the victims worth the cause? For example: are the people dying in Qatar
at construction worth the international attention these problems get? It
would be better if there was a different way, but I feel like right now,
there isn’t.
Again done wonderfully. You have a way of stating the facts and giving your
opinion in a way that is not forceful and I appreciate that very much. 🙂
Im from Brazil but living in UK for the past 12 years, the problem in
Brazil is not only about all this money going to build those luxurious
stadiums that won’t have an use after the world cup but also because of the
corruption while building those places, is a very common place in Brazil
while building a train station,bridge or whatever the cost of those
constructions end up being 6X more expensive than it should be, and
apparently Brazil already spent more to prepare to this world cup than any
other country previously, Brazil pay one of the highest tax on the planet
and are left without the minimum of the services they should be getting for
their money ! Is a really sad situation over there for those from poor
families!
Dude no place for fags in Russia
You hate it when sports and politics get tied up with one another, I hate
sports and lots and lots of money getting tied up. The hypocrisy is just so
apparent. In America Coca Cola uses the advertising appeal of equality and
stuff, in Russia they sponsor the Olympic games held by a wannabe Tsar.
Everyone talks about how Russia is such a bad country for imposing those
laws against homosexuals, and everyone feels good for criticising those
things, and still they watch it all. Just look at what Angela Merkel does:
she keeps condemning Russia for their legislation while at home she herself
is blocking equality from happening. Also, gender equality and selling
tanks and war ships to Saudi Arabia don’t quite match.
The worst part of sports events is such places is really the hypocrisy that
comes with it.
Brazil deserves it but…
Your point about raising awareness of the problems in these countries by
putting them in the spotlight is true, but once the olympics, or world cup,
or any other event when politics is told to stay out of it, will people
still care or will it just fade out of our collective consciousness and
leave the suffering russians, qataris, brazilians etc to themselves?
also, what did you think of the google doodle?
The IOC is shot through with corruption and cronyism and is incapable of
reforming itself (if you want to drain a quagmire don’t ask the toads).
Athletics is biologically exhausted and depends on drugs for new records.
Scrap the lot and focus on existing tournaments.
I do think you make a really valid point, countries like these hosting
major sporting events does put them in the public eye pretty much
worldwide, and therefore naturally creates awareness of the questionable at
best things that are going on. For a lot of people, it’s very easy to just
turn a blind eye to such injustices until it’s getting news coverage, and
there’s suddenly a ‘reason’ for them to care, or even just to have an
opinion. And I think that wider awareness of these sorts of issues is the
first step in the right direction.
Additionally, I really wish sport and politics could be kept completely
separate, but sadly with such major events, I don’t think it’s often
possible. As long as the safety athletes, fans and journalists etc. can be
guaranteed, widening the variety of countries hosting such events is
certainly not a bad thing.
Very good point, congrats on the video
I live in Turkey and there’s a lot going on in this country but LGBT right
are not one of our major topics. But although we are an Islamic country i
didn’t hear a problem about the topic not only for sports people but also
for celebrities that come to the country for music, films etc. that’s why i
couldn’t understand the topic at first but i am sure that the people
wouldn’t be okay with it.
Yet when it comes to countries like you’re referring to i think that the
candidate for events must sign at first that People from LGBT community
will be safe
Brazil had same-sex marriage allowed in demand by a Court order(2013 all
country) ..a gay sex allowed since 1800(U.s just in 2003( if I’m
right)..and have the biggest gay parade in the world ….true we have some
problems…But in this case we are far ahead of the united states of
america conservative people…. and much better than the laws of
australia….even had a main character with the right to gay kiss in the
novel in the largest television broadcaster in the country … where all
Brazilians were expecting …
Tom Daley test. It would work on me!
I can’t speak for other countries, but as a Brazilian person, I can
honestly say that “hoarding” the World Cup as well as the Olympic Games has
been an outright “panem et circences” tactic by the Brazilian government.
Brazil is a country in which corruption is treated as a joke, and public
funds seem to disappear at any chance. The hosting of these large sporting
events is, in my humble opinion, a waste of money to a country in which
there is so much yet to be done, and it just reeks of superficial
appeasement.
you are an idiot
There should definitely be parity in sports to at least have 50% of gay
athlest taking part in any such event and at least one gay president in
charge of organising it.
It seems like the people responsible for those big sporting events like
countries which are either horrible with human rights or maybe not quite
ready to handle the whole thing. Sure it’s a great way to get the attention
of the world on those problems and probably boosts the economy (at least
for a while), but it still feels really wrong to me :/ Plus when all the
journalists are gone surpression continues, and I suspect that before the
event a lot of critics are locked away so they won’t cause any trouble.
For poorer countries: If it can be estimated that a lot of people will die
in preparation or that it will be really bad for large parts of the
population that country should definitely work on itself for a few more
years. (I could be wrong, but weren’t entire slums in South Africa just
destroyed to build hotels and stuff?)
Couldn’t the jury, or who ever is in charge to decide, have like a list of
possible countries who’ll get the event if they can reach a certain goal?
‘Cause yeah, sport has nothing to do with politics, but the sport part of
the event is not really affected by the place.
It was Scottish accent, not Russian… what a fake.
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Just came from Lex’s video. You guys both did very well on covering this
issue. Interesting points you made. Totally agree with the expansion into
non western countries, if only those weren’t the ones that usually have a
record of human rights violations.
I’m much less worried about gay people being arrested by the Russian
government and much more worried about so-called vigilantes luring gays,
snatching them off the street & torturing them, all because of the wink &
nod encouragement of the Russian government. It is easy for Putin to say
the Russian government isn’t committing human rights violations against
gays when he’s got the Russian people doing it for him. –As for your
question, if basic human rights are being denied, those countries don’t
deserve to come out & play. They can sit at home & ponder their increasing
isolation from the world community. Fuck ’em. Sports are full of rules. So
is civilized society.
Suck my horse dick, FAG