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50 Comments on “Bp Robert Barron on Gay 'Marriage'”

  1. We live in a world where our concern for feelings trumps the logic that we all first objectively see what the person in front of us has, but that is not where it ends, for that power is ours to control. The shape of another can never bind the biological makeup of someone. We can be in line w what we are given and what we are supposed to do with it. The person behind our eyes needs that, not the idea that our aesthetic properties define anything at all. Sexuality is non existent. Anything can be attractive if you appreciate it. Society is too spoon fed on stupid milly mouthed mis interpretation of identity and expression combined with sappy placations to even create that dialogue

  2. I’m commenting to get comment number off of 666. Not getting into any details but there has been some trouble in my life lately. And just a few moments ago something happened that can’t exactly be explained. My wife calls me and tells me a cross in my house was moved not by me or anyone in my home. Something like that happened one other time in my life years ago. I was in a very dark place then too. It strengthened my lacking faith. My faith has been lacking again. Then I am at work right now playing YouTube videos on my phone then this video came up. Then I look at the comment section and it is at 666. So I felt compelled to comment. I’m not making this up. I’ve almost deleted this comment. But maybe someone will read this and it will strength there faith.

  3. Come on. Don't dance around the the bible declaration stated in Leviticus 18 in general and 22 in particular. Also Romans 8:26; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:8-10
    It's not what we want to hear but it's biblical.

  4. Why does this pastor have such a hard time getting to the point and clearly and kindly explain the Catholic teaching on gay "marriage". It is against the teachings of the Catholic Church. Period. No need to beat around the bush and possible confusing people in the process.

  5. HEY YOU MORON BISHOP BARROOM BARRON. .. ARE YOU STUPID OR EXTRA STUPID. . ARE YOU AN IDIOT ???? Are you a RETARDED BISHOP ???
    ARE YOU JUST A PLAIN MORON ??? WTF :!!!!
    "You are a Catholic bishop giving an interview that you know very well will be made public. As such, you REPRESENT OUR CATHOLIC FAITH AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO STATE CLEARLY WHERE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S TEACHINGS STAND ON GAY MARRIAGE ".

    SODOMY IS SODOMY IS SODOMY IS SODOMY. . YOU IDIOT BISHOP !!!

    DON'T YOU HAVE 2 BALLS BETWEEN YOUR SCARED STIFF LEGS TO STATE THAT 2 MEN OR 2 WOMEN HAVING SEX ARE COMMITTING THE SIN OF SODOMY !!! ??? !!! JUST AS WHEN A MARRIED PERSON COMMITS "ADULTERY " WHEN HE OR SHE HAS AN EXTRA-MARITAL AFFAIR . YOUR LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID THAT HIMSELF.

    WHO IN HELL TAUGHT YOU OTHERWISE….WAS IT JUDAS OR SATAN HIMSELF THAT SCREWED YOUR STUPID BRAIN CELLS !!!

    HONESTLY, THAT YOUNG MAN WAS ASKING QUESTIONS WHERE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S TEACHINGS STAND. …NOT YOUR FUCKED UP PERSONAL OPINION .

    WHY ARE YOU ASHAMED OF YOUR CATHOLIC FAITH?
    WHY USE A LOT OF GARBAGE AND SEWER INFESTED WORDS TO SAY NOTHING AND AVOID ANSWERING A STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTION… "Where does the Catholic Faith stand on the issue of gay marriage? ".

    You keep saying that we are all God's children. …we all know that, STUPID !!! God's children are also weak that's why we fall into sin and this is where we need to be aware of what is or is not sin. This was a question for clarification regarding gay marriage.
    Your answer bespeaks of trying to PLEASE THE LISTENING PUBLIC AND NOT OFFEND ANYONE while inwardly, YOU, MR . MORON, know that you are BETRAYING CHRIST HIMSELF. The same Christ that you have sworn to dedicate your life to…. (or have you changed your infected weak mind) .

    Let me REMIND you, you CRAP….. Have you heard of Saints becoming MARTYRS for CHRIST ??? They actually accepted torture and death defending their Faith. They tried to save souls for CHRIST and died for it. While you….in the comfort of your miserable interview cannot even defend it !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Did they not teach you and impart on you the ZEAL of Faith in the Seminary??? What seminary did you go to. ….University of COWARDS? College of MORONS? Higher learning Institute for RETARDS?

    **Instead of Guiding that young man to a life with Christ and His Teachings and let him decide from there….. you just confused and screwed him up with your fancy, high sounding, useless, intellectual dictionary words which any listener is bound to say, " Who the CRAP IS THIS CREEP" . What is he trying to say? Where exactly does he stand on the issue? He showed up in those bishop's habit for the interview so he must be representing his religion !!
    But…. the way this bishop talks is contradictory to his own Faith…or just plain NONSENSE! !!!!
    " God have mercy on you and give you time to REPENT BEFORE YOU CROAK !!!!! "

  6. for an organization whose greatest (current) sin is the worst of sexual improprieties, it is extremely judgmental of all individuals personal sex lives. at no point in human history has sex only been about making babies in the context of a Catholic Christian marriage to the pleasure of God's plan.

  7. Homosexuality is a spiritual/ sexual disease, much the same as other spiritual disorders that have their effects in behaviors .
    They are diseases that you cant put the cause under a microscope,
    The cause is spiritual not physical
    However a disease all the same that goes in stages unto death like any other. If not physical it will be spiritual death.
    Tell an alcoholic hes a sinner that he knows, tell him hes killing himself that he knows, tell him he has a disease he will think your crazy , ask him if he wants help and if hes willing to do what ever it takes , some will say , Yes.
    Then you show them the spiritual tools it takes, as saint peter said.
    I give you milk as your not ready for soild food. You dont give a
    Beef steak meal to a man with baked potatos who hasnt eaten any solid food in a month or more.
    He will only heave it back up.
    Saint peter said give him milk.

  9. I feel the same way about blacks marrying whites. It's fucking gross. Why these Catholic priests don't preach for a pure white race that isn't tainted by the enemies of Jesus?

  11. Bishop barron is wrong. I know in my heart that theres nothing wrong with me being gay and nothing wrong with gay marriage or gay sex either. If that means im not a catholic then fine, but im a child of God and disciple of Christ who understands love is beautiful and unconditional. God made me gay, Christ told me to love, i dont think the church gets that anymore.

  12. The level of blindfolded hate coming from the Christian commenters in this comment section is exactly the reason why atheists and enlightened intellectuals despise religion so much in the US and why the world has the perception of American Christians being so bigoted and close-minded. Even if just once you realised that your actions are the most counterproductive way of "convincing people of God's love"… however, I think the big fat lie you tell people is that you want everyone to "become the child of God". No, all you want is some comforting bullshit that tells you your ass is safe in this otherwise confusing and ambiguous world. You fear question, you fear knowledge and science. I'll tell you something: everyone does. No one is comfortable with the unknown in a big dark universe… but why do you think that controlling other people's minds and psyche and taking every single word literally from a book written and altered throughout the millennia will save from this unknown? Why is it that any genuine unreligious person would have a more refined sense of morality than a Neo-Protestant who is only able to tell if something is right or wrong if they look into a symbolist book and they look for some out of context "fortune-cookie" scripture that they don't bother translating at all. You have tortured so many innocent children, gays and several other naive genuine people. Believe whatever you want to believe in personally, but please leave this toxic behaviour and stop this community-control bullshit once and for all! Thank You!

  13. God loves everyone. But even the prostitute was forgiven and told never to sin again. Marriage is between a man and a woman. That is Biblical. You have gender disphoria and that is medically and scientifically verified. If gay marriage is "OK" and acceptable. Can a father his son? A brother marry his brother? Based on your rationalization, this should be ok because God loves you anyway so do it. This is a ridiculous and failed argument.

  15. The issue must be taken up with what the bible,no one in the church can make it right other then to help with the issue.
    If You read Romans 1:24 Therefore God gave them over in there desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonouring of their bodies etc…
    Men with men ,women with women equals spiritual death.

    There a army of so called Faith's and churches that support such life styles.

  16. "I am just a Bishop and the leader of a flock, they may look to me for guidance but I don't want to take it any further than that, there." Get off the fence you hypocrite and do your job! Or resign your position.
    You started off well enough, but then you got scared, this could make me unpopular, oh dear!
    Let me tell you that you should have explained the Sacrament of Marriage, who it is open to and who it is not open to. You doctrinally as a Catholic Priest have no truck with civil marriage anyway, so why the fudge? I understand the embracing the sinner and I fully agree and do the same, I am one, but you have got to speak in plain language and condemn the sin, period. Not say, I don't want to go further than that. Now calling on Dolan's and the Pope, is name dropping and it is useless, they are even more ambiguous than you. Dolan is a coward who doesn't even condemn child murderers for goodness sake! Pope Francis is still at the, who am I to judge moment. Again what is he for, if not to show the way? Is it a sin to bugger someone or not. If yes say so, if not say that, but don't say nothing, it's a disgrace. I have seen many scandals in the Church Cardinal Keith O'Brian, Bishop of the Isles Roddy Wright, these two cover both buggery and multiple heterosexual partners, throw in Cardinal Pell and you have the child abuse cover ups and vanilla sexual penetration of minors, but they have all been called out and condemned for what they are, Sins! Compassion and forgiveness are what comes after the justice of condemning the sins, contrition is a prerequisite of forgiveness.
    You, Dolan and the Pope are being totally disingenuous to the LGBT community of people's in your refusal to call out the sin, because we don't want to go that far!

  17. The pastor is not saying and nor should he say, being Gay is a sin. Buggery is the sin!
    I don't see how you can enlighten anyone's way with ambiguity and lies of omission.
    Me feels another Schism coming and it can't come fast enough as far as I am concerned.
    The traditional teaching of the Catholic Church does not change according to the fashion of the times, including the fashion of hiding the light under a bushel at best or deliberately and maliciously misleading the faithful and the penitent alike.

  18. The high bar is heterosexual sex ? Homosexuality existed for thousands of years before the church did. To proclaim it's unnatural doesn't make sense. It was a hotly debated issue for decades, but 20 years from now people will wonder what it was all about. Many same sex couples are raising children, and contrary to predictions those children are doing just fine. Nothing to see here folks, lets move on to relevant issues.

  22. It gets very complicated in this day in age when the church finally sees only God knows who goes where in the here after. So the new tactic has to be how do you try to control the denigration of society without looking like the bad guy to the average person who cares about their favorite tv show. The average Catholic wouldn't get off the couch to vote when they had to, now all politicians are representing the same things

  25. Bishop Barron nails it as far as Church teaching is concerned, despite the efforts of the interviewer to derail him on that. I would offer, however, as a counterpoint and as clarification Bp. Barron's video on same sex marriage. It is more thorough and underlines what is wrong with SSM. Everyone rushing to pile on and say that Barron is not "strongly iterating" the Church's position needs to inform themselves.

  27. There's not one thing Barron said that was heterodox or "avoiding" …. is he compassionate? yes. does he mention "objective disorder"? yes. does he mention gay marriage as a "failure" in God's plan for the human family? yes. Does he invoke Thomistic principles is articulating why he doesn't think repealing the current law will be helpful? yes. Seriously, it takes a fully fledged ignoramus to attempt to dismantle the good work Bishop Barron did here, on behalf the authentic Catholic Church.

  28. THOMAS AQUINAS AGREES WITH BISHOP BARRON (at least in principle): Check out Article 11 Question 10 of the 2nd part of the 2nd part of the Summa Theologiae.

    St. Thomas, that great patron saint of theologians, says this, which is what Barron is suggesting, and which people in their posts here are misunderstanding:

    "I answer that, Human government is derived from the Divine government, and should imitate it. Now although God is all-powerful and supremely good, nevertheless He allows certain evils to take place in the universe, which He might prevent, lest, without them, greater goods might be forfeited, or greater evils ensue. Accordingly in human government also, those who are in authority, rightly tolerate certain evils, lest certain goods be lost, or certain greater evils be incurred: thus Augustine says (De Ordine ii, 4): "If you do away with harlots, the world will be convulsed with lust." Hence, though unbelievers sin in their rites, they may be tolerated, either on account of some good that ensues therefrom, or because of some evil avoided. Thus from the fact that the Jews observe their rites, which, of old, foreshadowed the truth of the faith which we hold, there follows this good—that our very enemies bear witness to our faith, and that our faith is represented in a figure, so to speak. For this reason they are tolerated in the observance of their rites.

    On the other hand, the rites of other unbelievers, which are neither truthful nor profitable are by no means to be tolerated, except perchance in order to avoid an evil, e.g. the scandal or disturbance that might ensue, or some hindrance to the salvation of those who if they were unmolested might gradually be converted to the faith. For this reason the Church, at times, has tolerated the rites even of heretics and pagans, when unbelievers were very numerous." "

  29. Our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ (and the Catholic church) loves all people. Even those who turn away from God and/or refuse to ask for forgiveness. Jesus isn't just for those who repent. Jesus is here for everybody. And everybody is a child of God who deserves to be treated with the same human dignity as me and you.

  30. Don't let anyone tell you that male homosexuality is beyond rectifying. Baloney. One may dislike the solution, but it does work (Matthew 5:30). I know. I overcame my homosexuality by getting myself fixed like a dog (Matthew 19:12). It not only destroyed my goofy and misleading sexual appetite, thank God, but saved me from an emotional neediness that most people (including me) found pathetic and annoying. This "ancient cure" was not an uncommon practice for centuries from antiquity until about 1958 when psychiatry became foolishly over-rated as a replacement for religion and common sense. Self-castration among Christian men was so common by 325 AD that it was addressed in the very first canon of the Council of Nicaea. This canon was careful to rebuke only self-castrating clergy–not self-castrating laity as some sloppy readers mistakenly believe. (See: https://www.christian-history.org/council-of-nicea-canons.html ) Chemical castration, invented around 1942, was famously offered to Alan Turing, the WWII decoder and homosexual, as an alternative to prison around 1953. Absent for decades, castration is making a big comeback, thanks in part to Larry Don (See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1K9OZRnHiU ). After this famous case, eight states now give judges the right to demand some form of castration for serial predators.

  32. HEY YOU MORON BIG-SHIT BISHOP BARROOM BARRON. ..ARE YOU THE SAME BISHOP THAT MADE A STATEMENT THAT THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT NO ONE GOES TO HELL OR IS PROBABLY IN HELL RIGHT NOW? ? ?
    ARE YOU A CATHOLIC BISHOP? ????? HEHEHEHE
    WHAT SEWER SEMINARY DID YOU GRADUATE FROM ??? WHO WERE YOUR PROFESSORS….THE MUPPETS ??? WHO WERE YOUR CLASSMATES, DONNER AND VIXEN. …ALEX IN WONDERLAND. …WE'RE YOU THE RUDOLPH???
    WHAT DID YOU TALK ABOUT..
    KING KONG, THE HULK, DARTH VADER, BATMAN, CHIPMUNKS, UFC, RUBIK'S CUBE, THE BEATLES, THE OSCARS, 101 DALMATIANS, HOW TO CURE A RINGWORM, TELEMARKETING, TELL ME, YOU RETARD. ……

  33. You don't need to hate gay people or be a devout Catholic to admit that gay marriage is a supreme perversion of one of the church's holiest institutions.

  35. Bishop Barron shame on you. You couldn’t bring yourself to pronounce gay marriage is sinful, it is adulterous. Anything outside the idea of biblical marriage is adulterous, be it gay or straight. That’s what Christ said in the scriptures. Bishop Barron, please tell the truth with clarity instead of beating around the bush!

  36. I think human are fooling themselves when they beat around the bushes! It’s either a sin or not? Each one of us has to take a stand on this issue. And stop making excuses to take the easier route! One life to live and it’s for either Hell or Heaven. Remember you can’t relive your life so make the choice wisely!!!!

  39. Sin means the breaking of the law. The law then is the basis. Each human, male and female is with a marital status which is either married or unmarried to the opposite sex. To break the law is a sin such as engaging in adultery. Adultery is a sexual intercourse of a married and an unmarried to the opposite sex which is forbidden by Christ. Christ uses marital statuses in the restrictions for every male and every female. In adultery, a female, married to the opposite sex, is forbidden to engage in sex with the male who is unmarried to the opposite sex and that is adultery. A male, married to the opposite sex, is forbidden to engage in sex with a female who is unmarried to the opposite sex and that is adultery too.

    Those in purely willing unmarried ti the opposite sex in same sex sexual relations such as in gay marriage/unions/partnerships are not breaking the law and are not included in the coverage or sanctions base in the requirement for sexual intercourse in one-wufe law which is marriage to be able to be in marital sexual intercourse in one-wife law and prohibits all to married to the opposite sex to engage in same sex sexual relations.

    A married and an unmarried to the opposite sex in same sex sexual relations is a prohibition. In the accusation, one is taken away and the other left behind for the accusation. Both married and unmarried to the opposite sex in same sex sexual relations (who are not in PURELY WILLING UNMARRIED TO THE OPPOSITE SEX IN SAME SEX SEXUAL RELATIONS which are not violations, not included in the coverage or sanctions base in the REQUIREMENT FOR SEXUAL INTERCOURSE IN ONE-WIFE LAW WHICH IS MARRIAGE) cannot be accused as unfaithful spouses-who deviated from MARITAL SEXUAL INTERCOURSE IN ONE-WIFE LAW because the unmarried to the opposite sex cannot be an unfaithful spouse.

    There are two sexual activities which are not violations of the law. One is MARITAL SEXUAL INTERCOURSE IN ONE-WIFE LAW and the other is PURELY WILLING UNMARRIED TO THE OPPOSITE SEX IN SAME SEX SEXUAL RELATIONS.

  42. Can we get clergy who can just speak the Lord's truth without compromise? The fact of the matter is that homosexuals ARE at war with the Church. This Bishop couldn't even look Rubin in the eyes when he spoke.

  43. catholic church hate gays but loves pedophiles and John Paul II was their best protector when they runaway from prison& justice and he gave them protection in Vatican

  44. They say gay marriage is an abomination to the sanctity of marriage. UMMM no that would be DIVORCE. And yet more religious people get DIVORCE especially the evangelical people they are the highest group from 2015/2018..

  45. It is not biblical to say that everyone on earth is a child of God. Yes you're his beloved creation, but know not everybody is a child of God. Biblically, it is when you accept Christ you become a child of God.
    John 1:12-13 "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God."

  48. Gay marriage is the state support of the compromise of raising secure, healthy children by equalizing two men or two women to the status of biological parents. Study after study as shown us that the further away we get from the two stable, healthy, loving biological parents as those who raise and protect their children, the further into chaos become the lives of those children.

  49. I am deeply disconcerted by reply of bishop Barron. Where is the truth to be cleary stated, that man having sex with another men is commiting a sin which, if being persistent, is excluding such a person from ethernal life with God. How bishop may say, that he is not supporting any actiond to reverse a law allowing such a horrendous inusulting of God as same sex „marriage”? Does it mean, that bishop is ready to take on him fate of those childeren risen by homosexual couples? Unbelievable!

  50. To any gay or lesbian people scrolling through here, don't listen to these comments. Being gay or lesbian is who you are, and that isn't wrong. Don't let them scare you into believing otherwise.

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