Episode 419: Rethinking Roe, Crotch Christianity, & Militant Masculinity with Kristin Kobes Du Mez
Is our vision of the ideal Christian man more like Jesus or John Wayne? Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez talks about the rise of militant masculinity within …
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You can argue for not actively voting for Donald Trump, write in candidate, third party etc… but actively arguing for Christians to vote for Democrats and the most satanic platform in American history is disgusting.
Satan must love your false gospel. I hope you got a lot of cash for you soul.
Just discovered this, awesome and nuanced work here! Keep it up y'all. I'm really enjoying and learning so much from Jesus and John Wayne. Thank you for your important and prophetic work.
Phil, you made the statement about the possibility of Roe being overturned of possibly only decreasing the abortion rate by %10. With an average of around 600k abortions per year, you seem really cavalier about the possibility of potentially saving 60k lives a year….your attitude on this issue is quite disturbing.
Trump doesn't care about abortion either way – heck, he's probably paid for abortions. He's just using abortion to manipulate the Evangelicals to vote for him and 80% of white Evangelicals are more than willing to play into his con.
The GOP party apparatchiks don't want Roe overturned because they realize that it's what's keeping Evangelicals on the GOP farm, though lately they've been trying to focus group other fallback issues like the Leftist Boogie Man burning bibles on Portland streets ("They're comin fur your Biblez!").
US lost the VIet Nam conflict because soldiers were not masculine enough?! I never heard that one! And I completely disagree! History revealed a combination of corruption in So Viet Nam government, poor decisions by US Military brass and government leaders, poor troop moral and misc, other factors contributed to the loss. The great majority of US troops were drafted from the lower social economical class! They were brave young men who were very masculine!
I must agree with Du Mez that too often victims of sexual abuse and misconduct were blamed for the crimes of male perpetrators.
Hear this prolifers? Give it up already! Thank you Phil for your important work to keep abortions safe, legal and rare!
"Truth and moral absolutes are sacred cows and not worth standing for." -The Serpent to Eve in the garden, paraphrased
“Crotch Christianity”, really? Standing up to protect the lives of the unborn is considered “Crotch Christianity”? I agree that if Roe is overturned it won’t have the immediate effect a lot of people think it will have. But the precedent it would set and the long term ramifications of such a decision can not be overstated. But even if it had no effect, I believe it is on principle that people are fighting it. It is tyranny for the federal government to make it illegal for States to protect the lives of its own people. Protecting the lives of its people is literally what our government was instituted to do, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”. It is also to protect your liberty to the extent that you do not harm the life or liberty of others.
Also, the desire to put conservative judges on the bench is more than just overturning Roe. The trending move away from textualism is terrible for democracy. A judge that can reinterpret a law to mean something that it did not mean to the original authors is subverting the entire democratic process.
Back to my first point, just so I don't misrepresent, this is verbatim what Skye said at 27:17, "It [Crotch Christianity] is God cares about our crotches and what's happening in and among them. So, sexuality, abortion, transgenderism, gay marriage, what bathroom you use, that kind of stuff."
First of all, that is unnecessarily vulgar and seems to trivialize really important moral issues going on in our culture right now. Second, it is just not true. God does care about these things and to deny such is to deny his law. I agree God doesn't exclusively care about these things, perhaps this is what Skye was trying to say. That doesn't mean it is not important though. Either way, many of the policies the Democratic party is pushing, abortion access up to the moment of birth, celebrating homosexuality, affirming transgenderism, and sidelining traditional nuclear families, among others, fly boldly in the face of traditional Christian values and religious liberty. I am concerned about the normalization and moral acceptance of these things in our culture (though I don't think it is the government's responsibility to dictate an individual's morality), but I am way more concerned about the infringement on religious liberty in the name of these newly invented "rights". I don't think I am alone. In general, I think Christians are way more concerned about their religious liberties eroding away than they are about "policing the bedroom".
The Emancipation Proclamation did a lot for helping to end slavery although it freed few slaves.
I guess I believe in "Crotch Christianity", I would call it The Gospel, but guess you have a different choice of words for it Phil.
I notice a trend that often takes place in Phil's podcasts. Basically the "social" justice that Republicans or voting for change will be "fruitless", however whatever liberal idea that's currently on the platform in popular culture gets a biblical verse and explanation(basically the what they claim conservatives do). This is basically a podcast to deconstruct conservative bible belt Christianity, which is fine because that in itself needs criticism. For the opposite, which is out of the pot into the kettle. Basically starting from a cultural and whatever platform the democrats have, they look for a way to harmonize that with scripture on this, but when republicans do it we have to deconstruct, explain where it came from and find some one who disagrees with that(its clever actually if they have this goal). Sort of getting the wood out of the republican conservatives eyes while having a liberal plank in your own eye. This is a constant thing I see in these podcasts, its trading republican Christianity with liberal Christianity and making the same mistakes along the way. We should allow scripture to shape us holistically not march to the drum of a political party.
Good example Roe V Wade, if we took their approach we would never abolish slavery. Its still gonna happen why try to overturn it? Its works perfectly well with a political parties platform(democrats). They will occasionally critique democrats objectively but the lean certainly is liberal, which is their right, but at times can be hypocritical. I usually listen to them at this point to see what Liberal Christians think about topics at this point, just calling a spade a spade. Great podcast just a bit bias
I am so deeply disappointed in this content – on many levels. This isn't an uplifting podcast, folks. It is downright gossip and tears us apart even more. Phil – I have heard you at CPC (Children's Pastors Conference) and I literally cried. I'm not a perfect person by any means, don't pretend to be but with a platform like yours, my expectations are exceptionally high since you deal with kids. Ephesians 4:29 — also the "Crotch Christianity" reference is beyond the pale. Making fun of a fallen brother is something the Holy Scripture warns us about and I would definitely consider what has been said. The name "Holy Post" is even problematic – seriously reconsider.
Cosmic Christianity, the philosophy To subscribe to.
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